Hypnosis Radio Interview

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DJ Cat Paterson – Abbey104FM

Kim was recently interviewed by the lovely Cat Paterson of Abbey104.fm, a local interest community radio station based in Sherborne, Dorset. Cat presents the breakfast show ‘Jam and Toast’, with interviews and music, as well as bringing attention to topics including local bands and public interests such as M.E. (known as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome).

In the interview, Cat talks to Kim about Cognitive Hypnotherapy, how it works and who it may help.

Click here to listen to the full interview:

Sunray Radio Interview

(7:36 minutes)

Here is the transcript:


Cat: Hypnotherapy is making headlines. With me today is Kim Wilson, a Cognitive Hypnotherapist. Kim, welcome!

Kim: Thank you.

Cat: Where would you begin when a patient comes to you with obesity or weight issues? They’re very worried about what hypnotherapy would involve. What actually happens in a hypnotherapy session?

Kim: The first session in our hypnotherapy is about putting people at ease. One of the misconceptions about hypnotherapy is that the hypnotherapist puts someone ‘under’.. and it’s not like that at all. We use a very light trance; such as you’d experience if you’re reading a good book, or you’re driving to work and you can’t remember the journey. That’s all trance, and that’s what we use as part of our practice in Cognitive Hypnotherapy. We treat each person individually, so it’s never just a ‘weight problem’, it’s how each individual does their weight, so we could see ten people in a week and they will all experience their weight problem differently. And that’s where we’d start from, to really understand what the problem is, and how they experience it.

Cat: So how do you discover what the problem is? Because people eat for comfort, they eat for stress, and I suppose you have to find a way to identify that. How do you start that? How do you go about that?

Kim: We go through a very detailed first interview really, and you’re right, people eat for different reasons. But the reasons that keep them eating are linked to emotional concerns. If you just generally have an overeating problem, you can take or leave food. If you have an emotional connection to food, that’s when it becomes a problem. Because as you’re stressed, as soon as you’re lonely, as soon as you’re bored – you reach for the food. So what we do is work out the contextual element of that problem, i.e. when do you eat? Why do you eat? We work towards breaking down that emotional link.

Cat: So, a customer comes to you. They sit down, and you go through their history, you identify the problem. Then what do you do next? How do you get them into this trance state?

Kim: Generally we just talk to them. For example, if I asked you about a holiday that you had in the past you would actually be going through a form of age regression. Because you would have to remember back to that holiday. We use a similar technique. Generally if people have an emotional connection to food, it can start in early childhood. Not necessarily, it can start in teenage years later, but generally its childhood, so we would ask them to look back over their history and by doing that you’re already putting them in a light trance.

Cat: So it’s as simple as that? It’s literally recalling which brings back memories, and that is a form of trance. Is that what you’re saying?microphone

Kim: Yes, absolutely. If I said to you ‘tell me about a favourite holiday you had when you were a child‘ you have to go back and recall those memories. Because you are recalling them, you are actually ‘age-regressing’ so you are going back to a childhood memory and because of the way the brain processes that information you are basically in a trance. To remember that holiday you have to go back into a trance-like state to experience it.

Cat: You’re experiencing this memory, so where do you go from there? So, you have found the memory that is the key. How do you go about changing it? Do you change it, or… what do you do next?

Kim: What we basically do is… if it’s a childhood memory – the way that our brains work up to the age of about seven, possibly up to the age of twelve  depending upon what happens in your childhood… You only ever process in black or white, good or bad, right or wrong. So what we actually do is, we process that emotion, that memory that’s attached to food with an adult perspective which obviously contains many shades of grey and that actually releases the emotion out of the issue. We can use many other techniques as well, but that’s a very good starting point for us.

Cat: Do you mean by that, that you kind of… you see the memory,  and then you rise above it and see it from an adult perspective? To come to terms with it, to understand it? How quick do you see the changes? Can someone change in one session, or.. I presume I suppose it depends on the patient.. is there any way of knowing?

Kim: We tend to say on average between four and six sessions. But, absolutely I’ve seen people change in a single session. It really depends on how complex that particular emotion is to that particular problem that they have. People can make changes incredibly rapidly.

Cat: I have to admit, a friend of mine who was eighteen stone had a couple of hypnotherapy sessions and within a year she is now eight stone, which is extraordinary. She said to me, she would go into a supermarket. Before she would just head to the aisles with the crisps and the chocolate, but then [after the hypnotherapy] when she went there she didn’t want to go there anymore.  She felt uncomfortable with it. She just went to the fruit and veg. It’s just incredible how she’s changed. So, it really is possible, isn’t it!

Kim: Absolutely.

Cat: So what are the key problems? What else can you deal with as a hypnotherapist?

Kim: It’s absolutely amazing what we can deal with. It’s anything with an emotional content, or a behavioural content. We can deal with IBS (irritable bowel syndrome), depression, bereavement issues, weight loss as we’ve mentioned, smoking. Quite often I get people because they don’t quite know what’s wrong, and we work through that and find out what’s changed for them… and what they want to ‘get back’. People tend to lose an essence of themselves, so we work with that. We work with whatever people come to us with [bring to us].

Sometimes people come to a session and say it’s weight loss, and it turns out to be something completely different.

Cat: That’s interesting. I know you told me once before about a friend of yours who had a phobia about getting into swimming pools, and now she swims the whole time. I think that’s amazing. She had that from a very young age, didn’t she?

Kim: Absolutely. The thing with phobias, they’re very interesting. Again, you can have a simple phobia that is just about one thing, i.e. Most people recognise that spider phobias exist. But they can get generalised as well, and they can become complex phobias. So, that spider phobia becomes generalised to things that move in a certain way, or a lot of people have a phobia of a spider in the house, but not outside. So they can be very interesting things to deal with. And again, you can see change in a single session.

Cat: So, if someone wants to go and see a very good hypnotherapist, like yourself Kim, but one that doesn’t live in Kent! Where can they look? How can they find out more about hypnotherapy?

Kim: Well, I was actually trained by an institution called the Quest Institute. [They offer] very good training, and it’s a particular type of hypnotherapy called ‘Cognitive Hypnotherapy’ and it’s based on the latest research on how our brains work. We take elements from positive psychology, neuro-science, behavioural science and we use it as a framework. So anything that works basically, we pull into our tool-bag. I would recommend that people, in the first instance, look up the Quest Institute and find a therapist in their local area.

Cat: Kim, thank you very much for talking to me today. That was Kim Wilson, and her website is…

Kim: www.sunrayhypnotherapy.com


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Curiosity and world peace

Curiosity is, in great and generous minds, the first passion and the last.
Samuel Johnson

I was travelling back from London last weekend after assisting on a Quest training course when I was lucky enough to witness a wonderful conversation on the train.

I was sitting across the aisle from a man who was interrupted from his iPad musings by a woman and her two children who wanted to share the 4 seat bay he was occupying. The children wanted the window seats so the guy moved to the isle so that the little girl who was about 4 could get the view. The boy who was around 6 was obviously curious about what the man was doing on his iPad and kept looking over. It wasn’t long before he said ‘hello’.

It was one of those moments that if you travel a lot sometimes happen and it can go one of two ways. Either the person ignores the greeting or they engage with it.

The man looked up from his iPad and said ‘hello’ to the boy. There was no turning back from there. the children curious about the man asked his name, where he lived, what he was doing on his iPad and where he had been.

He in turn found out their names, where they lived, what they had been doing in London and that it was not long before the boy’s birthday and that he didn’t know where he would have his party as they were moving house.

Then the boy said ‘you have black skin and pink nails’. This could have been a hold your breath moment but both the mum and the man who I now know was called Ian were both completely relaxed about the conversation. The children were curious not judgmental and it made the conversation charming and innocent. They went on to talk about the differences between them, about what the children were doing at school, their friends and what they were like and before I got off at my station Ian had been invited to the boy’s birthday party.

Those children made a connection, a friend on that journey because they were curious about the differences not scared of them. It made me wonder how many connections we could make every day if we were just curious instead of fearful or suspicious of other people. Just think how much more positive our experiences could be if we treated everything with a sense of fascination. So why not try wearing your curious head next time you are out and about and see what a difference it makes.

Pay it forward

Sunray – Pay it forward

A couple of weeks ago my car broke down as I was travelling along a busy road, I heard a ‘ping’ and my clutch was no more. I was trying to push my car round an uphill corner to get it off the main road into a safer position when 3 people took the time to help me. It was a Monday morning, they were all dressed for work and as soon as my car was safe they were gone. I did thank them at the time but we don’t always have the opportunity to pay a favour or a kindness back to the people that help us.

What we can do though is pay that favour forward. It was a huge coincidence that two days after my car broke down I was leaving my house when I saw my neighbour pushing his car down the road. Although he declined my offer of help it reminded me that there are always opportunities to pay a kindness forward.

One of the things that I’m doing in 2012 – 2013 is assisting on the latest Quest course. The Quest Institute is where I trained to become a Cognitive Hypnotherapist and is one of the most innovative courses I have ever been on. During my training I was introduced to a number of ‘assistants’ who gave up their time to help facilitate and support the new students.

They were an enormous help and a motivation to me as they had already passed the course and most were working as therapists. Although I can’t pay that kindness back to each individual I can pay it forward to the next intake of students and I am happy to do it.

So have you ever been helped by someone that you haven’t been able to thank personally?
Why not think about paying it forward instead and the side effect is that you’ll feel great doing it!

Read more about paying it forward at wikipedia.

What to expect in your first Cognitive Hypnotherapy session

The first session takes the form of an in-depth consultation that may or may not include hypnotherapy techniques. The information gained from this session is vital so that I can understand more about you, your current issue and what you want to achieve from the therapy. As Cognitive Hypnotherapy is a collaboration between us it is important for both of us to fully understand your goals and have realistic expectations of what can be achieved.

Occasionally people come for therapy with expectations based on stage and entertainment hypnosis where a subject is ‘put under’ hypnosis and the hypnotherapist removes their problem or takes control of them while they are in trance. The idea that something or someone can take a problem away instantly, without the need for you to participate is not a realistic expectation. Although this can sometimes happen, it is not the norm. Change is a process, it doesn’t have to be a long process but it is rarely instantaneous.

If your current behaviour, pattern of thinking or emotional state is creating a problem for you we will work together to explore what it will be like to have what you want instead. We will then consider what is blocking you from getting what you want and uncover the elements of that pattern that need to change to resolve the issue. I will always aim to resolve the underlying cause of your issue not just the symptoms of it.

It’s very important to trust the therapeutic process because sometimes it is necessary to take an seemingly indirect route. A person that comes to stop smoking for example, may find themselves exploring a memory from childhood in order to let go of an emotional connection to smoking such as ‘it made me part of the gang’. Subsequent sessions will depend upon the feedback you give me on the changes you have been noticing between sessions. Although it is difficult to predict how many sessions you may need because it depends on your particular issue, generally changes can be noticed within 2 to 4 sessions.

The decision to get therapy can require considerable courage and is only often considered when a problem has become compelling so if you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact me.

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What is Cognitive Hypnotherapy?
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Hypnosis and Stoptober

Stoptober is all about giving up smoking for 28 days but it got me thinking about what else could be given up for a month.  Whether you smoke, overeat, over- think,  procrastinate, argue, nail bite or have some other habit that is holding you back why not consider giving it up this month?

Sunray – Stoptober
Have you heard? It’s Stoptober.

Stopping a habit takes focus and perseverance.  So ask yourself on a scale of 1 -10 how determined you are to give up. If you are anything less than 10 out of 10 ask yourself why? A habit is an automatic, repetitive pattern that has often been around for some time. Your desire to be free of it has to be stronger than the habit itself.

“We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit.”  —  Aristotle 

We become so good at the habits we have that we do them unconsciously so one of the most important things we can learn in order to break them is to become aware of how we do our habit. For example, if you currently smoke and your habit is to smoke with your right hand, change to the left. If you have a habit of eating something sweet after your meal, try eating it before your meal.

This enables us to put the habit into our conscious awareness and gives us back the element of choice.  Whatever habit you are trying to break you will experience urges and cravings that can have a physical component, be aware and accept that this may happen.

Be patient and gentle with yourself. Your habit has probably been around for a while so it will take time to break free from it. Just keep going and remain focussed and don’t be too hard on yourself if you do have a slip up. The more often you try to give up a habit the more likely you are to succeed.

Treat it like an experiment and be curious and willing to experience your feelings and thoughts. Encourage yourself  any time you feel pressured by the habit and understand that it’s a process, just as starting the habit was.

Most of all persevere, you can do it and Stoptober is a great month to start. Good luck and we would love to hear what you’ve decided to break free from.

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Pain management and self hypnosis

A couple of weeks ago one of my clients asked me if I use hypnotherapy on myself.  I do and I’ve had a superb opportunity over the last couple of days to use what I know about pain management. On Friday morning I had an accident whilst walking my dog. I twisted and broke the middle finger of my right (dominant) hand. The break is between the first and second joint, and bad enough that my finger was looking in the wrong direction (apologies if you are squeamish!)

Pain can be very helpful. Without pain, we might seriously hurt ourselves without knowing it, and we might not realise that we have a medical problem that needs treatment. Being able to manage your own pain through techniques such as self-hypnosis can be very useful, especially if the pain is chronic or severe.

There are several techniques that we can use for pain management. This ranges from completely anaesthetising an area, to dulling the pain so that it is at a manageable level. After the fall, I decided to make it just comfortable enough to get home from the dog walk. I wanted to make sure that I didn’t damage it further by not being able to feel when it was under strain.

The staff at the hospital were excellent. Despite all the pushing and pulling and resetting at the hospital, I only had one moment when the pain reached an uncomfortable threshold and I’ve have managed the pain without drugs since Friday.

So if you do have issues with pain why not consider giving hypnotherapy a try, have a look at WedMD for a review of how hypnosis can help: WebMD: hypnosis for pain.

Please remember that pain is usually there for a reason. If you are dealing with an injury, please consult your doctor, give yourself time to heal properly and be patient.